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I kinda wish Palladium had gotten hold of the Star Wars license... Their system is not perfect but it rewards a free-thinking GM or player. It is also more versatile than the D&D based D20 system that TSR/Wizards of the Coast tried to dump on us. I agree that the story is most important. If it wasn't my players wouldn't keep coming back.

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I like palladium and all, but I am so glad they did not get the d20 license. You would get crap art, not to mention a horrid combat system. You are still level based, and the max skill percentage you could get is 98%. Just think how the force would be handled... just as horrid as their magic system.

AND then you have the problem with MDC/SDC if they decide to go with it (and most likely it would happen).

No, Palladium is not the right system for Star Wars. They are a good system for a Robot Mecha Game like Robotech (and I hope they get the license back!) They are also good for a fantasy setting. Super Hero... not so much.

Star Wars, I would of rather seen R. Talisorian get the license or WEG to get it back. But it is in the hands of Hasbro/WotC and it will not go anywhere. Why? Because Lucas has large amounts of money in Hasbro, this just gives him more money.
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D6 will alway be my favorite, but I've always problems finding players in my neck of the woods so I've started playing D20 as well . I've been a long time Palladium player as well and toyed with the idea of a conversion attempt, but never gave it a serious attempt.

Hell, to get my SW fix I even played the Decipher CCG and considered the miniture game, before I came to my senses. Now if the people behind the new Axis& Allies miniture game got ahold of the lisence...

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Ummmm... The new Axis and Allies minis game is put out by Wizards of the Coast, the company with the non-electronic gaming license for Star Wars and producers of both the D20 game and the minis game.

And as a bit of news, the odds of Wizards of the Coast losing any portion of the non-electronic gaming license to another company is somewhere between nonexistant and none. Y'see, Wizards of the Coast is a division of Hasbro, who has the toy license, and as an entity they pay Lucas enough money for the combined license that they have substantial clout. Enough so that when WizKids Games approached Lucasfilm with a couple different game ideas that garnered some interest, Hasbro stepped in and quelled any possibilities of a deal there.

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Actually Hasbro has the toy license and WoTC has the rpg license, or something like that. This means that they each hold a Star Wars license. If Hasbro was going to trim some of the fat, they would "buy" the mini game from WoTC and then WoTC can dump their license. An Axis and Allies license was "bought" by WoTC so they can make the mini game. Basically, if Hasbro wanted, they can take over the "board & card" games (each mini game would be tweaked into something like Heroscape) and then they can sell off WoTC or at least slim down the company to only a D&D staff.

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Do your research, Xynar. Hasbro owns Wizards of the Coast.

Bottom of the WotC page:
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© 1995-2006 Wizards of the Coast, Inc., a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



They also own Parker Brothers, Milton Bradley and Avalon Hill, among many others, so those Star Wars Risk, Trivial Persuit, Monopoly, Attactix, etc. games you see in the stores are all, just like the minis game and the d20 RPG, products of Hasbro.

In fact, Hasbro has owned WotC for some years now... Since 1999, to be specific. You know, the same year West End Games lost the license. Ever wonder why WEG really lost the license to the SW RPG?

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But WoTC is still a seperate company. You should do your corporation research. We'll use a bigger example.
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Now this corporation owns several others. They cannot freely intermingle resources. Each is a seperate company. If one company develops a new vehicle, they would still have to sell the plans to another. I work in a corporate environment. My company does IT. The corporation that owns us also has a construction company and an agriculture company as well. We cannot freely intermingle resources. Monies do change hands between each compnay, but at the same time remain in the corp. It's complicated and made to protect other vested interests. If WoTC folds, Parker Brothers does not, nor does Hasbro.

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*shrug* Okay, still by keeping the game license with WotC, they keep themselves protected should the game fail. And given your own example, then technically WotC couldn't sell the game to Hasbro without having to go through a license renegotiation/transfer since WotC is the holder of the minis and roleplaying game licenses, and not Hasbro.

And by keeping the games with WotC, they keep the properties with the people trained in dealing with them in an infrastructure that is already set up for that purpose, as opposed to reorganizing their own internal resources to deal with product that is not in line with what they are already producing. Especially since Heroscape's actual publisher of list is Hasbro's Milton Bradley subsidiary, again another entity set up to deal with the games as opposed to the toy lines of Hasbro proper.


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Unless WotC gets reabsorbed into Hasbro as a whole, then possibly spun off again later. If/When WotC is absorbed, all their properties become part of Hasbro. Then Hasbro has the option to spin off another company (probably call it again WotC) and sell it off.
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Perhaps we should get back on topic.

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