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have a great vacation Challenger0414. emoticon

nice update. yeah, those weird CEC fin s are pretty tough to calculate. I had a tough time with the CR90 fins and those cut through a curved hull as well. To think I'm going to have to redraw that whole thing again.....


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Thanks Lucas emoticon

Nothing new to show yet, but I can share what I'm working on. Looking (again) at tackling the reactor/shield generator/comm housing on the wing. The shape overall isn't that complicated, but for some reason translating it into pixels is a monster.

I was also looking more closely at the studio model engines and came to conclusion I need to revamp them (again). Third time's the charm, right?

I really want to start working on some interiors, but I'm forcing myself to leave that alone until I finish the exterior. However, I did decide to stick to a deck layout more or less like the right half of the cross section in my previous image. The ship will end up with three full-height decks (command, passenger, main) and a fourth service deck with a slightly lower ceiling, probably around 2.2 meters instead of 2.5.

I'm a little torn between staying true to the original studio model or creating a compromise between the studio model and the TCW model. Truthfully I like the spine and reactor housing layout a bit better on the TCW model than the studio model. For one the connection to the center engine from the reactor housing flows more smoothly on the TCW model, and the spine integrates better with the rest of the ship and would grant a larger passenger deck. The lighter purple forward landing gear hatch is where I would need to move it to accommodate the TCW turbolaser turret. I know the TCW version is technically a retrofit, but moving something so structural as landing gear seems a little extreme. Unfortunately I don't think it's quite possible to fit in two escape pods on each side without drastically altering the landing gear location or pushing the turbolaster turrets back a few meters. Thoughts and opinions welcome.
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I solved the reactor housing! At least for now, I'm sure there are revisions in my future. I knew letting it sit and percolate for a couple of days (to weeks) would work, it usually does. I know the sides of the first and second "tiers" of the structure are angled, but at this scale (and in pixels) it's not possible to make the additional necessary lines look nice. The same applies to the wing too, it's actually not quite a 45 degree angle, but throwing in a handful of 1x2 lines just doesn't look good.

I also completely redrew the engines to better match the studio model. I blocked out the command deck interior, but I promise I'm not working on interiors. emoticon

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Regarding the variations between the Phantom Menace and Clone Wars versions, do you accept the canon explanation that the Charger c70 retrofit increased the overall length of the vessel? If not, why?
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Coming along very nicely!!
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Thank you Kal!

As for PureMalice's question, there's no way the Clone Wars retrofit increased the ship's length by 23 meters. The proportions are identical between the two versions, and the forward laser cannons barrels overhang the superstructure by maybe a meter, and the superstructure on the Clone Wars retrofit is (possibly) a little shorter than the original since it's flat and doesn't have little "hat" projection on top, so it works out about the same.
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I'm just gonna throw my two cents in here and agree with Kal that this shape is shipping up...I mean, this shaip is shpiping....

looking great man. emoticon

as for the question of a 23 metre difference due to the retrofit, yeah. "official" sources for scale and size, I think, are determined by 2 dart boards one with random numbers and the other with random units of measure. It wouldn't surprise me if someone came up with a retrofit scale calculation of the Millenium Falcon that had a variance of 12 degrees kelvin!

wow, that was a long walk for that joke. :P

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quote:

Lucas P wrote:

I'm just gonna throw my two cents in here and agree with Kal that this shape is shipping up...I mean, this shaip is shpiping....

looking great man. emoticon




Thank you both emoticon

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Lucas P wrote:

"Official" sources for scale and size, I think, are determined by 2 dart boards one with random numbers and the other with random units of measure.




OT yes, PT and ST less so. There are a few examples of spot-on official dimensions I know of. One example is the Eta-2 fighter. The Star Wars blueprints coffee table book includes the plans for the full-size prop built for the movie. The official length and production blueprints are both 5.47 meters. Another promising point is Disney's revision of the X-Wing's official length from the perennial (and inaccurate) 12.5 meters up to much more reasonable 13.4 meters.

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yeah. I think that works, but I would have to revisit my math based on the use of R2's dome as a reference.

In the upcoming game 'Squadrons' they have 8 ships in game, the rebels have the A-wing, X-wing, Y-wing and U-wing (I think?). Particularly intersting is the scale of the A wing. Looks like they went somewhere in between my research (4.63m long) and the 'official' ridiculous size of 9.6m long.



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The new official length of the RZ-1 A-Wing is 6.9 meters, coming in a little under the RZ-2 which is given a length of 7.68 meters.

But rather than diving down this particular rabbit hole, I suppose I should steer us back on-topic.
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