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V-35 landspeeder


So Frank threatened a visit from the "Samsonite man" if I didn't take on a project... just kidding.

I agreed to try my hand at the V-35 aka, the Lars family speeder. Frank and I have been discussing size and there is no official size noted and Web stats are all over the place. After scaling Frank's human figure, we have a good estimate of the V-35 at 21 feet.

Now it gets fun. Here is what Essential Guide has to say:

SOROSUUB V-35 COURIER
The Lars family's landspeeder was a typical family vehicle it provided simple, practical transportation Unlike Luke's once-sporty X-34, the V-35 Courier was built to be inexpensive, reliable, and thoroughly unremarkable. Although it was an older model, Owen and Luke managed
to keep the heavily used SoroSuub V-35 Courier in excellent mechanical condition. With a fresh paint job and some interior work, it could have been worth a couple of thousand credits on a used speeder lot in Mas Eisley. Since Owen and Beru Lars used the speeder only about twice a month, it was often stored in the family garage, which doubled as Luke's workshop.
Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru used the vehicle for their regular errand trips to Anchorhead, the small hamlet not far from their form. While the speeder's top cruising speed was only about one hundred kilometers per hour, that was fast enough for everyone in the family but Luke. In Anchorhead, Owen gathered supplies for the farm (he always needed parts for his moisture vaporators because of mechanical breakdown or nocturnal thieving by Jawas and other scavengers), and Beru would pick up household items and sell her excess hydroponically grown vegetables for whatever price she could get.
The Lars landspeeder would seat three. The driver sat atop the vehicle, almost directly in front of the repulsor-field generator; a retractable windscreen provided protection from harsh weather. The unit had a simple scanner system for navigation, although Owen and Beru knew the routes
around Anchorhead so well that they seldom used it.
The passenger compartment was located just beneath the cowling and was entered through folding access panels. The passenger seats folded down to reveal the large cargo comportment inside the body of the vehicle.
As is typical of many older speeders, the repulsor-field generator dominated the vehicle. The engine's accessible location made maintenance easy. Operation of the repulsor system was simple the repulsor generator provided lift to keep the vehicle above the ground and also provided power
to the turbine thrust system.
The repulsorlift generator for such a craft is open to the air for cooling purposes. While better cooling could be seen as a benefit on most planets, this particular feature is a liability on a desert world such as Tatooine, where loose sand and other particles constantly clog intake vents and ruin ion pistons. Owen Lars solved the problem in genuine moisture farmer fashion: he built homemade filtering screens for the repulsor generator and the air intakes.

And here is the top/side drawing we are working from:
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Okay,here is a sizing/seating test based on the above:

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Frank and I agree, based on reviewing scenes from E4, that the driver does not sit as described in Essential Guide. There is currently no evidence to support this design concept. Frank's idea is that maybe it's a rumble seat. I am not completely sold on that idea myself but it does maintain the seating as described in Essential Guide.

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas?

Also, I was initially going to work on this in yellow scale to match with the A-wing. Just made sense to me. But having seen Sevro's two speeders in red scale, I am thinking this speeder should be done in red for consistancy.







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Here are some of the scans I had on the Courier:

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Based on my observations, I'm convinced that exposed seat can not be a diver's seat -- the ones in Mos Eisley are moving around without anyone sticking out. I'm not even all that sold on there being a seat there at all as it would take up most of the V-35's stated cargo space.
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 Damn Servo, you beat me to the scans emoticon
(you had way more though)


 I am convinced that the driver sat forward of the two passengers and they would flank the drvier. My question is how do you get in the damn thing???? I don't see a hatch, so maybe the suggested driver seat area is where you get in?

 I also find the whole "ION PISTON" concept laughable.

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The bit about the homemade sand screens could be important - that geometric shape on the top could be a "tub tent" to protect the actual repulsor system. If you're drawing a stock model, you may want to think about the true shape of that section...
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I Realize that the info i'm about to pass on is from WotC and not WEG, but the arms and equipment guide has the v-35 listed as 3.8 meters, or approx 12.5 ft.

For what it's worth.
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Servo,

Thanks. I didn't have the last two.

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Grtak,

Good question about how to get in. I am guessing a gullwing door like this:

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located here: (one on each side??)
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As to seating position, I agree that the driver is most likely forward with the passengers seated behind.



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quote:

kenposan wrote:

Servo,

Thanks. I didn't have the last two.



No prob. Glad to help! emoticon

While at dinner tonight I started thinking about that seating diagram and the 'rumble seat' theory. Given that the Essential Guide says "The passenger seats folded down to reveal the large cargo comportment inside the body of the vehicle," I think I can see a way all this could work.

What if that 'rumble seat' is located in said cargo area? If we fold up the bottom of the rumble seat and fold down the exposed section of backrest to seal off the inside of the body, then we have a rather large cargo area behind the two front seats. That way you still have the Guide's seating arrangement (with exposed seat) as well as the cargo area.

The gullwing door idea is definitely a possibility, particularly if you take the different seating arrangement (the doors open up to the rear passenger seat and the driver moves up to the front center seat). Those protruding features at the tops of the panels could easily conceal a latch.

However, looking back at that seating diagram as well as some particularly heavy panel lines in the Chiang drawing I think there might also be another possibility -- the doors could be those angled panels between the side and the nose:

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If this were the case, the access panels would likely open/close like normal car doors but they would also allow access to the seats as would a normal car.

Oh, one more thing... I noticed that the new version of the Essential Guide is now claiming that the Lars Family Speeder isn't the V-35 Courier; this is of course ridiculous as it's clearly a V-35 seen in the Lars' garage in the movie. It's certainly not what the new guide is trying to pass off as their speeder:

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Oh, and as for which scale to draw it... Yes I drew both the others in redscale but I'm going to have to re-draw the XP-38 anyway and the X-34 only has the top view done at this point, so if the powers that be would prefer yellow scale then I'm good with it. Either way, something tells me we'll also have to work up a blue scale version (at least the top view) for placement in the ships on the website.

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Interesting idea about door placement. I am partial to gullwing and that would still work. It's just more "spacey". LOL

Don't know what that *thing* is from the new Essential Guide, sure doesn't look like what I saw in the movies.

As to scale, I guess Frank et al should figure that out. I am fine with either. And yes, blue scales will need to be done. It was my blue scale military vehicles that got me into this mess to begin with because I wanted them for cargo. I would say top and side views. emoticon

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quote:

Kysmic 42 wrote:

I Realize that the info i'm about to pass on is from WotC and not WEG, but the arms and equipment guide has the v-35 listed as 3.8 meters, or approx 12.5 ft.

For what it's worth.



And as usual WOTC are total idiots. At 12.5 feet, you would have a Mazda Miata looking large. This speeder was built on a full-size car chasis from the 70's. Do you know how big a 1975 chevy impalla is? Its almost double that size. Please do yourself a favor and burn the book. LOL emoticon

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